Buy Nothing Day 2007...

topic posted Thu, November 15, 2007 - 12:27 PM by  Sy
So what are people doing for adbusters annual anti-holiday???

We've got a consumer zombie flashmob planned for Bristol... Similar to last year...

uk.youtube.com/watch

But hopefully with added zombie orchestra, zombie circus, more flyering and a mockumentary news crew...
posted by:
Sy
offline Sy
United Kingdom
  • Re: Buy Nothing Day 2007...

    Fri, November 16, 2007 - 12:10 PM
    I dunno... I'm not buying it.
    • Re: Buy Nothing Day 2007...

      Tue, November 20, 2007 - 7:29 AM
      Do those that "buy nothing" on Fri, then " buy want you want" on Sat. ? What's the point ?
      Why don't we have a " Buy everything on preditor credit cards Day", followed by " Bankruptcy Day" ?
      • Sy
        Sy
        offline 24

        Re: Buy Nothing Day 2007...

        Tue, November 20, 2007 - 8:13 AM
        Dan, perhaps you should read a bit about BND before asking these questions...

        from the BND UK site

        www.buynothingday.co.uk/

        'Of course, Buy Nothing Day isn't about changing your lifestyle for just one day - we want it to be a lasting relationship with you consumer conscience - maybe a life changing experience? We want people to make a commitment to consuming less, recycling more and challenging companies to clean up and be fair. The supermarket or shopping mall might offer great choice, but this shouldn't be at the cost of the environment or developing countries.'

        The event is about encouraging awareness - not simply not buying stuff for one day
        • Re: Buy Nothing Day 2007...

          Tue, November 20, 2007 - 8:17 AM
          Thank you Sy,
          ...Shop till you drop Dan!
          • Re: Buy Nothing Day 2007...

            Thu, November 22, 2007 - 12:26 PM
            Just to clearafy , I repair, or build from found parts much of what I need in life. And consumerisum is a result of the mega markiting wonks, brain washing us ( excluding self) for the last 30 or so years.
            I did'nt see when this BND started, or how much it has grown on the web site. Nor do I see any evadence that it has had any effect. And I can't imagin that taking one day a year to make people "aware" that they're buying a lot of shit, will make a differance. They know they're buying a lot of shit . And it keeps thier free market system rolling, jobs = $ = stuff = jobs = $ etc.
            Part of the problem is that there just arn't any " fix it shops" anymore. So there are limited options when something breaks.
            Another is that what you posess is percieved as who you are, in our culture.
            What's the answer ? Hell I don't know, other than convincing everyone to live like I do, yard sales, flea markets, throw aways.
            But this world is driven by making STUFF that stays behind when we go to our next life.
            One day a year ? Seems like a feel good, romantic band aid on an ozzing sore.
            Kind of like cooking for, and cleaning the homeless shelter. Because the homeless are too busy being homeless to do it them selfs." But it makes me feel warm and fuzzy Mr. Dan !"
            I try to choose my battles ( many in my 50+ years) based on the possability of acutaily having the effect I'm looking for. It's very easy to get caught up in a cause, spending you time, energy , and money. With very little, if any effect, been there done that.
            • Sy
              Sy
              offline 24

              Re: Buy Nothing Day 2007...

              Sat, December 29, 2007 - 7:41 AM
              'consumerisum is a result of the mega markiting wonks, brain washing us ( excluding self) for the last 30 or so years.
              I did'nt see when this BND started, or how much it has grown on the web site. Nor do I see any evadence that it has had any effect. And I can't imagin that taking one day a year to make people "aware" that they're buying a lot of shit, will make a differance. They know they're buying a lot of shit'

              are you serious?

              so everyone except for you has been brainwashed... which is a dubious premise for any argument... but then a couple of lines later people know they're buying a load of shit... which suggests they are fully conscious of their actions and their social and environmental rammifications rather than the brainwashed consumer zombies you claim them to be...

              You also admit to not really knowing anything about BND - as your earlier post made apparent - and then go on to slate it so as to subsequently talk about how wonderful you are and how the answer to society's ills is for everyone to be like you... Fixing things is a good idea... Being a bitter old man with a huge ego isn't. Equally, ill informed criticism of others attempts to actually do something to raise awareness and publicise issues around the social and environmental consequences of Western overconsumption will neither make you many friends, nor will it convince people that being more like you will help anything.

              'I try to choose my battles ( many in my 50+ years) based on the possability of acutaily having the effect I'm looking for.'

              And what exactly is your 'battle' here - trying to tell people that you're great, everyone should be more like you and stop any kind of activism that you don't like and little knowledge of - hardly something that seems achievable.

              BND in Bristol went really well this year... We had loads of young teenagers looking at the labels on their clothes, thinking about where their things had come from, what the conditions that the people who made those clothes have to work in, and what the environmental consequences of shipping/flying goods all over the world is with reference to national and global ecological footprints and sustainability. For young people who aren't often exposed to these issues in the mainstream media this kind of grassroots activism can be really effective at raising awareness of some of the problems capitalism tries to sweep under the carpet. It isn't going to suddenly put an end to overconsumption, anthropogenic climate change and all the world's maladies - but then if you think any single action/event/campaign is going to suddenly solve all he world's problems you almost certainly looking down the wrong path.
              • Re: Buy Nothing Day 2007...

                Sat, December 29, 2007 - 9:15 AM
                Get some perspective ! All I did was ask questions, are you so angry at the world that you would attack someone for promoting thought ?
                I didn't attack your presious BND, I only questioned the reason, and effectivness of it. How would you perpose evaluating it's effectivness ? If you are going to respond to someone, take the time to understand thier statments, or ask you own questions, other than "are you serious?".
                I did NOT say everyone but me has been brainwashed. Brainwashing the public into buying widgets is what the markiting industry does, it is thier soul purpose in life, and they are very good at it. How do you think our socity has come to this point of mass consunerisum ?
                Do you think people should throw avery thing that malfunctions out, and buy new ones. Or repair broken items, and NOT buy more ? Why would you critasize me for this ? Isn't that what you would rather see people do ? Oh... and I'm not "old, bitter, or egotistical" , I just said that I fix stuff. There's no "battle" here.
                Making people aware of the consaquence of thier consumerisum ( i.e. buying locail rather from the other side of the world) is a good thing. But they are still buying, in many cases just to have because some ad made it look just too cool not to have, and we all want to look cool don't we?
                The Inlaws won't like you if you teeth arn't white enuf. Last years fashion, AND static cling, how can you leave the house ?! This is the same brand Joe kool the camel smokes, how can they be bad for you ? All marketing hype.
                I was born and raised in the test makiting capital of the world, Columbus Ohio, yes ......Col. OH. It all started there. the first Suppermarket had a balcony behind one way mirrors. So the they could watch and learn to controll the movement of customers. This told them how and where to place items to induce the public to purches. ( circa. late 1950's) They discoverd the power of sex to sell almost anything, and have used it masterfully ever sence. How to get people to buy, not because they needed it. Rather because it was " On SALE" and such a good deal, that you won't get tommorow, ( fear of loss).
                To this day, you have markiting co's with offices in all of the malls in Col. just so they cay do survays about how to convince you to buy somebodys product.
                Having watched this devlopment expand around me over the years, has helped me realized the power of markiting. In a free socity it has become politics, sound bites and photo opt's rather than substantve dialoge.
                You need it because..... we say you need it, etc, etc. So yes, I see markiting / advetising, as the wicked witch of the west. Why do you think all of those teenagers are buying all of those cloths , regarless of what the lable says ?
                And when did I maintain that people should >>stop any kind of activism << ? I think you may have read what you wanted to read, And i'f I belive that I've found a way to better the world ( fix it don't throw it away )
                Why shouldn't I suggest people be more like me ? Isn't that what we ALL should be doing and saying ? Is'nt that what your'e doing and saying ? YES WORLD, I AVOID PATISAPATING IN THE THROW AWAY , BUY MORE WORLD, AND SO SHOULD YOU !!!!!!!!! Do you find falt with my position ?
                >>but then if you think any single action/event/campaign is going to suddenly solve all he world's problems you almost certainly looking down the wrong path. << . Don't put words in my mouth, I have no problem doing that myself. Iv'e found that putting them in the form of a question brings the greatest number of answers. Don't lose your passion, find your direction.

Recent topics in "Culture Jamming"

Topic Author Replies Last Post
Fun at Wal-Mart Ĩżąŕđ 12 June 30, 2008
Travel Pictures Country next to Country BoBi 1 June 29, 2008
Transitory jamming winter orbit 13 June 12, 2008
Strike These Words From The English Language... Unsubscribed 38 June 12, 2008